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		<title>Comment on An experiment too far? by Behavioural science and development: More practical examples &#124; Voices from Eurasia - We help build better lives.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Behavioural science and development: More practical examples &#124; Voices from Eurasia - We help build better lives.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 09:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] However, development practitioner beware, this approach does not go without a certain degree of criticism. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] However, development practitioner beware, this approach does not go without a certain degree of criticism. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on An experiment too far? by Behavioural science and development: How about some practical examples? &#124; Voices from Eurasia - We help build better lives.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Behavioural science and development: How about some practical examples? &#124; Voices from Eurasia - We help build better lives.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 07:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] of starting to think about how we can apply it to our work. (Keeping in mind that there is some criticism of the approach [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of starting to think about how we can apply it to our work. (Keeping in mind that there is some criticism of the approach [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on An experiment too far? by Marc</title>
		<link>http://aidontheedge.info/2013/05/03/an-experiment-too-far/#comment-4440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 12:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ben,  Thanks for the post. Not yet able to create sufficient credibilty among aid recipients, as you say.  But I think digital technology is a game changer. As I blogged (http://www.humanicontrarian.com/2012/06/07/328/), we NGOs no longer have monopoly control over the narrative of who we are. Not here in our Western homelands, where people from Africa can read and comment on how we portray our work or their socieities, and not in our missions.  A recent example:  western Myanmar, where highly politiicized social media messages declare that MSF is not neutral or independent, but pro-Islamic and hence pro-Rohingya.  Keep up the interesting posts.  Marc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben,  Thanks for the post. Not yet able to create sufficient credibilty among aid recipients, as you say.  But I think digital technology is a game changer. As I blogged (<a href="http://www.humanicontrarian.com/2012/06/07/328/" rel="nofollow">http://www.humanicontrarian.com/2012/06/07/328/</a>), we NGOs no longer have monopoly control over the narrative of who we are. Not here in our Western homelands, where people from Africa can read and comment on how we portray our work or their socieities, and not in our missions.  A recent example:  western Myanmar, where highly politiicized social media messages declare that MSF is not neutral or independent, but pro-Islamic and hence pro-Rohingya.  Keep up the interesting posts.  Marc</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Managers Haven&#8217;t Embraced Complexity by faisalnsour</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[faisalnsour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 19:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting perspective. I commend the author on trying to answer this question, and would like to suggest that he has touched on the underlying difficulty in spreading complexity informed insight, but not in the reasons given.

As for the reasons given:

1. Managers will always want control–that’s the point of their role.

2. This is backwards. More data may provide useful information, but by itself it cannot help anyone embrace the inherent complexity of the world. In fact, more data thrown at a struggling manager may induce more stress, and stress causes most people to throw nuance out the window. The new data will no doubt provide new avenues of actions, but only if they are consumed by mature managers. The data itself can’t raise anyone up.

3. I’m not sure what non-human decision making has to do with the reluctance of managers to take a more nuanced approach to their jobs. This has little to do with whether a manager is willing and able to think more complexly about his problems.

Where the author does make progress in explaining the trouble with embracing a complexity informed worldview is in this sentence: “The recognition of complexity is at its core a view of the world that that makes us more humble and more open.” This humility comes from seeing that you don’t and can’t know all the details. That’s a frightening proposition and hard to take in.

Russ Ackoff tried to answer the question of why managers never embraced systems thinking. He claimed two reasons. The first is the general reason that CYA is often a manager’s priority #1, so they tend to avoid new ways of approaching their problems, no matter how promising. The second reason, more specific to the topic of systems thinking, is that the profession of systems researchers is too introverted and hasn’t learned to speak clearly about its ideas. What it manages to impart to the interested manager is a vocabulary that may feel like knowledge, but is next to useless because it doesn’t help them understand the particular situation they are facing. It takes more than concept–it takes practice! What manager has the time or inclination to practice before work?

Thanks for the mindfood!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting perspective. I commend the author on trying to answer this question, and would like to suggest that he has touched on the underlying difficulty in spreading complexity informed insight, but not in the reasons given.</p>
<p>As for the reasons given:</p>
<p>1. Managers will always want control–that’s the point of their role.</p>
<p>2. This is backwards. More data may provide useful information, but by itself it cannot help anyone embrace the inherent complexity of the world. In fact, more data thrown at a struggling manager may induce more stress, and stress causes most people to throw nuance out the window. The new data will no doubt provide new avenues of actions, but only if they are consumed by mature managers. The data itself can’t raise anyone up.</p>
<p>3. I’m not sure what non-human decision making has to do with the reluctance of managers to take a more nuanced approach to their jobs. This has little to do with whether a manager is willing and able to think more complexly about his problems.</p>
<p>Where the author does make progress in explaining the trouble with embracing a complexity informed worldview is in this sentence: “The recognition of complexity is at its core a view of the world that that makes us more humble and more open.” This humility comes from seeing that you don’t and can’t know all the details. That’s a frightening proposition and hard to take in.</p>
<p>Russ Ackoff tried to answer the question of why managers never embraced systems thinking. He claimed two reasons. The first is the general reason that CYA is often a manager’s priority #1, so they tend to avoid new ways of approaching their problems, no matter how promising. The second reason, more specific to the topic of systems thinking, is that the profession of systems researchers is too introverted and hasn’t learned to speak clearly about its ideas. What it manages to impart to the interested manager is a vocabulary that may feel like knowledge, but is next to useless because it doesn’t help them understand the particular situation they are facing. It takes more than concept–it takes practice! What manager has the time or inclination to practice before work?</p>
<p>Thanks for the mindfood!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Managers Haven&#8217;t Embraced Complexity by macengr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 03:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would note that many managers haven&#039;t even been exposed to the concept of complexity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would note that many managers haven&#8217;t even been exposed to the concept of complexity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Managers Haven&#8217;t Embraced Complexity by Tim Phan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Phan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. I&#039;d like to add that most managers likely do not have the flexibility to fail (&quot;creative destruction&quot;), conservative/bottom-line saving tends to override the more creative potential of complexity science.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I&#8217;d like to add that most managers likely do not have the flexibility to fail (&#8220;creative destruction&#8221;), conservative/bottom-line saving tends to override the more creative potential of complexity science.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An experiment too far? by Kristin Kennalley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristin Kennalley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 19:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for mentioning the AVSI project. After working for many years in the community, ethics is certainly a concern! We posted more about the WINGS project here: http://www.avsi-usa.org/component/content/article/36-news-and-stories/321-wings-program-phase-1-research-presented-with-ipa.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for mentioning the AVSI project. After working for many years in the community, ethics is certainly a concern! We posted more about the WINGS project here: <a href="http://www.avsi-usa.org/component/content/article/36-news-and-stories/321-wings-program-phase-1-research-presented-with-ipa.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.avsi-usa.org/component/content/article/36-news-and-stories/321-wings-program-phase-1-research-presented-with-ipa.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on An experiment too far? by Alex Oprunenco</title>
		<link>http://aidontheedge.info/2013/05/03/an-experiment-too-far/#comment-4320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Oprunenco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Ben,
many thanks for very interesting post. There is a lot of discussion around tentative successes stemming from applying behavioral science insights to social problems. However, ethical issues you mentioned often take the back banner; and tt would be a pity, if those advancements are undermined by lax attitudes towards ethical issues. After all, the whole idea is that people should remain free to make choices themselves, and this should refer both to the decision whether to take part in an experiment or not; and what decisions to make being part of experiment.
Indeed, there is need for those spaces for the experimentation. We, development practitioners should handle it with care. 
I would also appreciate if you could suggest more reading on this issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ben,<br />
many thanks for very interesting post. There is a lot of discussion around tentative successes stemming from applying behavioral science insights to social problems. However, ethical issues you mentioned often take the back banner; and tt would be a pity, if those advancements are undermined by lax attitudes towards ethical issues. After all, the whole idea is that people should remain free to make choices themselves, and this should refer both to the decision whether to take part in an experiment or not; and what decisions to make being part of experiment.<br />
Indeed, there is need for those spaces for the experimentation. We, development practitioners should handle it with care.<br />
I would also appreciate if you could suggest more reading on this issue.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An experiment too far? by Kevin Savage (@KevinSavage11)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Savage (@KevinSavage11)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 23:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t the first time you&#039;ve raised general concerns about such approaches to figuring out what works through econometric analysis and RCTs. Where are the examples of unethical RCTs? Are you just generally worried or have you seen actually unethical RCTs?
I&#039;ve had colleagues react quite viscerally when hearing about using randomization or even quasi-experimental designs to do such research but they seem to be completely oblivious to the rather arbitrary, random or non-random, and unethical way in which the PRESENT approach to targeting assistance is done, without anyone being given a choice or consulted. Considering the typical way limited amounts of assistance are assigned to different groups of people (i.e. divided between districts or sub-districts, provinces or even countries), I&#039;m rather perplexed at people&#039;s sudden concern about trails with controls. A further absurdity is that the whole point of such research is that there isn&#039;t really very much evidence that some of the things being done actually make any difference! At present, with no trials, no repeated controlled interventions with evaluation, we don&#039;t really know if the assistance being given does any good anyways. 
I think there&#039;s a wrong caricature of randomization people have formed. There are ways of randomizing that are for example not changing how a project is going to be delivered anyways: a wait-list or phased roll out for example is a common design, something we&#039;re attempting to do with CFS research. The Innovations for Poverty Action has been doing many interesting studies with randomization and they certainly do consider the ethics.Latest study from IPA of Uganda AVSI project is good example.
http://poverty-action.org/project/0104]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the first time you&#8217;ve raised general concerns about such approaches to figuring out what works through econometric analysis and RCTs. Where are the examples of unethical RCTs? Are you just generally worried or have you seen actually unethical RCTs?<br />
I&#8217;ve had colleagues react quite viscerally when hearing about using randomization or even quasi-experimental designs to do such research but they seem to be completely oblivious to the rather arbitrary, random or non-random, and unethical way in which the PRESENT approach to targeting assistance is done, without anyone being given a choice or consulted. Considering the typical way limited amounts of assistance are assigned to different groups of people (i.e. divided between districts or sub-districts, provinces or even countries), I&#8217;m rather perplexed at people&#8217;s sudden concern about trails with controls. A further absurdity is that the whole point of such research is that there isn&#8217;t really very much evidence that some of the things being done actually make any difference! At present, with no trials, no repeated controlled interventions with evaluation, we don&#8217;t really know if the assistance being given does any good anyways.<br />
I think there&#8217;s a wrong caricature of randomization people have formed. There are ways of randomizing that are for example not changing how a project is going to be delivered anyways: a wait-list or phased roll out for example is a common design, something we&#8217;re attempting to do with CFS research. The Innovations for Poverty Action has been doing many interesting studies with randomization and they certainly do consider the ethics.Latest study from IPA of Uganda AVSI project is good example.<br />
<a href="http://poverty-action.org/project/0104" rel="nofollow">http://poverty-action.org/project/0104</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Aid Explorer: Mapping the Hyperspace of International Aid by rick davies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick davies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 08:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ben

Readers might be interested to know that there is a way of doing a very simple version of the analysis presented by Aid Explorer, which I tried out in 2008 and described here: http://mande.co.uk/special-issues/participatory-aggregation-of-qualitative-information-paqi/#webpages It starts &quot;Web pages are piles of links, brought together by website designers who think the links have some form of shared relevance.  Links to other websites can be seen to be conceptually linked when they are referred to on the same webpage.  A single Google search for two web page addresses will produce a list of sites where both are listed. See this example of a Google search for  “www.dfid.goc.uk, www.worldbank.org“. The number of the sites containing both of these links tells us something about the relative strength of that conceptual link (i.e a lot of people see some form of commonality, though not necessarily the same form). &quot; The post goes on to describe the results of one systematic search for associated links, and includes a network diagram that shows the structure of associations]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben</p>
<p>Readers might be interested to know that there is a way of doing a very simple version of the analysis presented by Aid Explorer, which I tried out in 2008 and described here: <a href="http://mande.co.uk/special-issues/participatory-aggregation-of-qualitative-information-paqi/#webpages" rel="nofollow">http://mande.co.uk/special-issues/participatory-aggregation-of-qualitative-information-paqi/#webpages</a> It starts &#8220;Web pages are piles of links, brought together by website designers who think the links have some form of shared relevance.  Links to other websites can be seen to be conceptually linked when they are referred to on the same webpage.  A single Google search for two web page addresses will produce a list of sites where both are listed. See this example of a Google search for  “www.dfid.goc.uk, <a href="http://www.worldbank.org“" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldbank.org“</a>. The number of the sites containing both of these links tells us something about the relative strength of that conceptual link (i.e a lot of people see some form of commonality, though not necessarily the same form). &#8221; The post goes on to describe the results of one systematic search for associated links, and includes a network diagram that shows the structure of associations</p>
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